{"id":512979,"date":"2019-06-02T00:41:40","date_gmt":"2019-06-02T00:41:40","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2026-06-24T18:48:14","modified_gmt":"2026-06-24T22:48:14","slug":"there-is-more-trinity-sunday-c-2019","status":"publish","type":"sermon","link":"https:\/\/staging.episcopalchurch.org\/es\/sermons\/there-is-more-trinity-sunday-c-2019\/","title":{"rendered":"There Is More, Trinity Sunday (C) &#8211; 2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/episcopalchurch.org\/lectionary\/first-sunday-after-pentecost\">[RCL]: Proverbs 8:1-4, 22-31; Psalm 8 or Canticle 13 (or Canticle 2); Romans 5:1-5; John 16:12-15<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.episcopalchurch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Trinity-Sunday-2019.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-189203\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jesus said something curious in today\u2019s gospel: \u201cI still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why do you suppose that Jesus said that? He was speaking to his disciples. Whatever did he mean?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Did he know that his disciples were full up \u2013 saturated \u2013 couldn\u2019t handle anymore? Was he concerned the disciples might not remember his words? Were they grieving the death that was coming, and so couldn\u2019t hear?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or were they the bumbling, not always bright, frequently-missing-the-point band of merry men that Jesus had grown to love \u2013 and had tried to teach \u2013 and they\u2019d had enough truth?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI still have many things to say to you\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why do you suppose Jesus said that? And what else did he have to say that went unsaid? We can only speculate \u2013 and trust.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trust that his promise to send the Holy Spirit to speak to us for God has been realized. Trust that what we need to know is expressed to us through the generations by the Spirit moving in human community. Trust that God will find a way to bring comfort, guidance, wisdom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Whatever else Jesus might have wanted to say, we can only speculate and trust that the ongoing revelation of God\u2019s Spirit is fulfilled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is the essence of Trinity Sunday. A preacher could sit down now and be done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We may not know what Jesus left out, but we do have some record of what Jesus had already said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There have always been questions about what Jesus really said. This consideration was taken up by the scholars of the Jesus Seminar in the 1990s. What distinguished the scholars of the Jesus Seminar was their method of approach with their questions: they used a system of grading, essentially voting scholarly opinions about what they thought Jesus did and did not actually say. Most of the gospel material, they concluded, came up as unlikely to be genuinely the words of Jesus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While some people take offense at efforts to examine the Bible for historical evidence, still others use Scripture carelessly and to their own ends. We hear this in the evening news as people claim, \u201cThe Bible says\u2026\u201d to support their position on something. The truth may be that the Bible doesn\u2019t say that at all, or that it seems to say that while also clearly saying just the opposite. The Bible is not a dead document fixed in time and space or a rule book given to stipulate correct behavior. It is a story of people and their relationship with God, of the struggle and challenge of living meaningful lives, of goodness manifest in Jesus and the love of God manifested in a new way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And yet Scripture sometimes gets used carelessly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, where does it say in the Bible, \u201cGod helps those who help themselves\u201d? It\u2019s a popular saying, and true, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOh \u2013 moan \u2013 I can\u2019t find work, can\u2019t finish school, I\u2019m low on money,\u201d you fill in the blank. And some well-meaning soul replies, \u201cWell, you know what the Good Book says: \u2018God helps those who help themselves.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Does anyone know where that is in the Bible? It\u2019s not there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is a popular quote with several variations. Sophocles, Aeschylus, George Herbert, Ben Franklin in his Poor Richard\u2019s Almanac, each expressed this sentiment in one way or another. But it isn\u2019t in the Bible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another way some folks run loose with the Bible is to quote or cite only part of a saying, like the Apostle Paul\u2019s admonition, \u201cWives, be subject to your husbands,\u201d forgetting that there is an equal charge to the men: \u201cHusbands, love your wives.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even worse are the zingers that attempt to gain advantage in a discussion by completely misreading or misrepresenting something. Think of some of the things our politicians say to cheering crowds \u2013 even though they\u2019re not true. Think of the clarion calls of some religious leaders who proclaim, \u201cThe Bible says\u2026,\u201d when it does not. As people of faith, we have a sacred responsibility to tell the truth, to represent the truth, indeed, to recognize the truth in our midst.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some instances might be funny if it weren\u2019t possible to imagine disastrous consequences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Years ago, on a radio call-in show in the Washington, D.C. area, a woman cited the biblical passage which in the King James rendition has Jesus telling the disciples to \u201cSuffer little children\u2026 to come unto me.\u201d \u201cSuffer,\u201d in this context, tells the disciples not to prevent the children from coming to Jesus. It\u2019s an old usage of the term. But the woman was taking this passage from the Bible and using it to defend her argument that children should suffer through corporal punishment simply because Jesus said so!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you see what happens when we don\u2019t listen carefully for the truth?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is hard stuff, God\u2019s wisdom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jesus tempered it. The Holy Spirit inspired it. And it is still hard to live the revealed truth of God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSell all that you own and distribute the money to the poor.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDo not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your body, what you will wear.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDo not resist an evildoer.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLove your enemies.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDo not worry about tomorrow.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLet anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;\u201cBe perfect.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even the very image of Jesus that has become our understanding as \u201cmeek and mild\u201d is portrayed heavily in our 19th-century hymnody, but this is more in keeping with Victorian romance than the truth of our Lord as portrayed in Scripture. It just doesn\u2019t wash!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As Christians, we are people of the Book, the story of earlier generations carried within the Bible and the traditions of our community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Many of them are great stories. Some are puzzling, troubling, comforting \u2013 even funny, if we can get past our own piety to God\u2019s truth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We won\u2019t know what those stories are, won\u2019t be knowledgeable and articulate in our Christian heritage, unless we read the Bible with understanding. It is an understanding that calls for study, yes \u2013 but first calls for prayer. Prayer has the power to soften our hearts to receive God\u2019s truth and to open our ears to hear God\u2019s word.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In seeking knowledge of the Bible, first pray. Then read. Seek a historical understanding. Search for connections. Listen for poetry. Look for the Bible in unusual places: at sporting events where John 3:16 is proclaimed on posters and athletes write Scripture passages on their bodies; on the cups and wrappers used by In-N-Out Hamburgers and on the shopping bags of the popular teen clothing store Forever 21; in country and pop and rap music and on your favorite television shows.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, work for the building up of the kingdom in the way God leads. God will lead you into truth, and now more than ever, the world needs truth!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trinity Sunday celebrates the mystery, the majesty, of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three persons are tied together in today\u2019s gospel words of Jesus. So, what more did Jesus have to say that could not be said? We don\u2019t know. We do know that there was more, there is more. In the abundant life of Jesus, there will always be more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Today, consider another trinity that can guide our response to the gift of God\u2019s presence in three persons and that can aid us in our search for God\u2019s truth: Say your prayers. Read your Bible. And last, but certainly not least: Work for the building up of the Kingdom. Amen.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-file\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.episcopalchurch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sermon-English-Trinity-Sunday-C-2019.pdf\"><strong>Sermon-English-Trinity-Sunday-C-2019<\/strong><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.episcopalchurch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sermon-English-Trinity-Sunday-C-2019.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button\" download>Download<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[RCL]: Proverbs 8:1-4, 22-31; Psalm 8 or Canticle 13 (or Canticle 2); Romans 5:1-5; John 16:12-15 Jesus said something curious in today\u2019s gospel: \u201cI still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.\u201d Why do you suppose that Jesus said that? He was speaking to his disciples. 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