{"id":511153,"date":"2003-08-17T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2003-08-17T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2026-06-24T17:34:02","modified_gmt":"2026-06-24T21:34:02","slug":"it-has-been-said-proper-15-b-2003","status":"publish","type":"sermon","link":"https:\/\/staging.episcopalchurch.org\/es\/sermons\/it-has-been-said-proper-15-b-2003\/","title":{"rendered":"It Has Been Said&#8230;, Proper 15 (B) &#8211; 2003"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It has been said that if advice giving worked, we wouldn\u2019t need therapists or marriage counselors. Pastoral advice from one\u2019s favorite member of the clergy would be almost irrelevant, too. Just think of the great insights you\u2019ve given your family and\/or friends when they\u2019ve gotten in a jam, been misunderstood, or have just, plain, messed up. They sound appreciative \u2014 and then say something to the effect that, \u201cOh, you just don\u2019t understand,\u201d or \u201cthat would never work for me.\u201d Or they just sound like they really get it \u2014 but do something else anyway.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then there are those sayings: Haste makes waste. A penny saved is a penny earned. A stitch in time saves nine. A word to the wise is sufficient.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Little sayings that maybe you heard from a relative or a neighbor. Maybe a book of advice included old adages and clever sayings. Maybe someone repeated one of these every time you saw them, until you never, ever wanted to hear from them again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, that\u2019s what the book of Proverbs is about. A collection of good advice, probably actually used to educate appropriately young men of \u201cbetter\u201d families. But interwoven with this advice is, indeed, the idea of Wisdom \u2014 that strange spirit that keeps reappearing, and confuses. This desirable attribute that we are called upon to make integral to our life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it is confusing. Often people think of Wisdom as somehow the purveyor of knowledge. Hmmm. A prominent business man writes: \u201cDuring the past 10 years, the amount of information available to an individual, not a scientist or a genius, just a normal, average person, increased by a factor of 10,000! Are you 10,000 times more knowledgeable than 10 years ago? How about 1,000 times? Perhaps only 100 times? I\u2019ll settle on 10 times. How many of us here will truthfully admit to themselves that they are 10 times more knowledgeable today than a decade ago?\u201d While he is challenging his employees, it is easy to see how we, too, might not be taking advantage of new ways to \u201cknow.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Wisdom and knowledge are not the same. Wisdom guides how we live, not at all the same as facts and figures, or even how we interpret those facts and figures. So here we are much more than a decade later. We\u2019re people living some 2,400 years later than Proverbs was written. Why? Why is this included in the Bible, much less the lectionary? What does this have to do with us as church-goers?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, being followers of Christ is not an abstract thing. Believing in God and seeking to do God\u2019s will, and in that way seeking to be wise, is not about feeling guilty or embracing some vague spirituality. It is about living. And Wisdom invites us to that place where we can live abundantly. Where we are invited to a party called life. Which is part of the essence of being God\u2019s creation, God\u2019s children, God\u2019s hands in the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ah, yes, but how? Being Wise is a great idea, but no one gives us lessons, except for the well- meaning advice we hear. And we all know how hard it is sometimes to do something just because we think (or \u201cknow\u201d) we should. Can one suddenly become wise? How do we indeed attend Wisdom\u2019s party?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Always being ready to learn \u2014 knowing indeed that \u201ca word to the wise is sufficient,\u201d which really paraphrases Proverbs 9:8-10, just after today\u2019s lesson: \u201cA scoffer who is rebuked will only hate you; the wise, when rebuked, will love you. Give instruction to the wise, and they will become wiser still; teach the righteous and they will gain in learning. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.\u201d (NRSV)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But finally we must turn to the Gospel for our insight and strength. Here we have that strange cannibalistic story in John that seems to make no sense at all in the context reported, and maybe only a little sense in the early Christian context where the practice of celebrating the last supper\/Holy Communion\/Eucharist was being established. Jesus says, \u201c\u2026whoever eats me will live because of me.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, we are being told something very straightforward here; something central to the thoughts of insufficiency that were raised in our other lessons. It is only by making Jesus so integral to who we are \u2014 as food becomes our body, nourishes us, becomes part of us \u2014 that we will indeed live abundantly and eternally. So partake at our Lord\u2019s table, listen to the words of scripture and struggle to understand, \u201cwalk in love as Christ loves us,\u201d and when we\u2019re given advice, at least listen long enough to hear if it is gentle Wisdom speaking.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For as Jesus becomes part of us in this visceral way, we can indeed, \u201cwalk in the way of insight\u201d and live in that place of Wisdom that is not about knowledge, but about who and how we are. So not only are we living with Wisdom, but we are living as an integral part of the Body of Christ, \u201cwe in him and he in us.\u201d And it is in claiming that intimacy that we are not only assured of eternal life, but that the life we live here may be truly wise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It has been said that if advice giving worked, we wouldn\u2019t need therapists or marriage counselors. 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